From: maili31s@... (SugHimsi==SUGIHARA Hiroshi) Date: 2003-12-25T06:48:31+09:00 Subject: [FYI: historic] The desicive moment of the language name Ruby. (Re: [ANN] ruby 1.8.1) Thank you matz. To celebrate this release and a decennial language, I would release a translation of a historic record; what is the root of the name "Ruby." If it would be your fun, I should be very happy. Merry Christmas, -- SugHimsi == SUGIHARA Hiroshi 'Le style est l'homme m^eme.' (Buffon, 1753) Subject: [ruby-dev:5173] Re: to_i, to_s Simple question From: keiju@rational.com (Keiju Ishitsuka) Extra: The desicive moment of the language name. [0] [0] This is a footnote (except [0] ;-). # Talking on the chat. [1] # Forgive me Matz, this is without your permission. (__;;; [2] : keiju> By the way, do you have considered the name of the language? matz> The subsidiary in Hitachi had struck the advertisement [3] matz> Well, Tish, if it's like shell enough. matz> But I want a smarter name. keiju> Toilet paper? matz> That's Tissue keiju> What does it mean? matz> implies nothing matz> Such a word cannot be found. keiju> Can I interpret it? Something elliptical? matz> No, absolutely no meaning. Nuance is its all keiju> It's... matz> A meaning is made suitably later. keiju> possible trick though. matz> And, considered for a language name which is designed a bit ago to shelve, is Pit matz> "Hole" keiju> What's the heck? matz> erm, when considered it was some abbreviation, but... matz> forgotten keiju> ruby keiju> a jewelry name after all matz> put it alongside kanji? matz> why jewel's name? matz> the influence of Mitsubishi? [4] keiju> perl matz> I see matz> So why not rubie? it should [5] keiju> But, perl is related to a shell. matz> Oh, I don't know that matz> never noticed that keiju> Possibly the arrival of thorough thought... matz> hmmm keiju> What kind of shellfish can make pearl? matz> Any kind is OK keiju> really? keiju> Is it such a thing? matz> just with AKOYAGAI is beautiful keiju> that's it. keiju> in English. matz> with oyster can make it also keiju> what's it? matz> in Japanese, KAKI matz> AKOYAGAI is said pearl oyster. useless keiju> well then oyster matz> ruby is better. matz> I have seen coral somewhere matz> SANGO keiju> somewhat i have heard it. matz> i remember there's a soft such as coral draw keiju> bisque is it keiju> Nuance of coral is good. matz> bisque is cool, but sounds bad matz> Coral, it may likely be anywhere keiju> sure it is... keiju> something in OS? matz> Was it so? Although it sounds neat keiju> Can you look at the yellow book? [6] matz> there's Chorus and Clouds keiju> How quick matz> nothing also in the Nikkei book [7] keiju> hmm. keiju> then suppose there's not and decide to it? matz> Is it no need to look over besides OS? keiju> Especially a language ... matz> language -- keiju> and company name keiju> trademark matz> Isn't it OK just only to ask an editor? [8] keiju> whether it's there or not. matz> Let us decide the codename now matz> tentative one. keiju> Ok. matz> What is your best up to now? keiju> I'm content with coral. matz> I thought ruby is cool as a codename, isn't it keiju> Well. ruby is also good. matz> But, coral is also good matz> arrr Soon after the chat (a mail from Mr. Matsumoto): >> >\item codename is ruby or coral* > coral has worse impression than perl (perhaps) so quit it. >I remember ruby is my birth stone... [9] Well, then Ruby. Hence the name Ruby (^^;;; [1] At 24 Feb. 1993, in a private chat room. This time Matz and Keiju are about 200 km far apart. (And the chat is, of course, in Japanese. ;-) See also [8]. [2] This translation itself is on the kind courtesy of the conversators' (Matz & Keiju's) permission. The workor (SugHimsi) sincerely thanks to them. [3] Another story; no concern with the rest. [4] Mitsubishi's trademark consists of three diamonds. [5] Remember Perl is not straightly 'Pearl'. [6] A commentary or a catalog of operating systems. I couldn't determine the book. [7] Ditto. [8] They were making arrangements of their joint work on object oriented programming book, which at last wasn't published. The work had a theme to develop a sample programming language (of course object oriented one). [9] Keiju speaking. Acknowledgement: see [2]. That's all, thank you.